I completed my degree in accounting at the University of Tulsa, a private university in Tulsa, Oklahoma in 1982. At this time, (at the risk of totally dating myself) there were eight national public accounting firms, “The Big Eight.” At the University of Tulsa, the professors made it clear that if you did not work for one of these firms, your entire career would basically be a failure. It was imperative to make a high grade point and have sufficient extracurricular activities so that these firms (not all were located in Tulsa) would interview you.
No one wanted to stay at these firms long, because everyone knew they were “sweat shops”. They hired large recruiting classes only to layoff half of them each year. Not only that, but we heard that they made you work insane amounts of hours. If you were still there at the end of the third year, you had it made. You could get a really good job at a private company.
Fortunately for me, school was easy for me and I easily secured interviews with all of the firms located in Tulsa. Each one was reputed to have a certain personality, but the two best firms, hands down. were Arthur Andersen (Go Ahead and Laugh-Worldcom, Enron, fraud, document shredders, eventual dissolution of the firm, etc.) and Arthur Young. I went for my first interview with Arthur Andersen and spent all day there. (All of the interviews took all day long) My last interview was with an influential partner who just happened to be a large donor to the University of Tulsa.
Evidently I failed the question: “Where do you see yourself in 10 years?”. I answered honestly and said, that I certainly did not want to be a partner or anything like that, but that maybe I would want to stay about three years. Evidently this was the wrong answer and I did not receive an offer! This was the first inkling I had, that I might have chosen the wrong career. Apparently, from talking with other recruits, you were supposed to lie about this question. Although only about one out of twenty accounting students that I knew were planning on remaining with an accounting firm, the answer you were supposed to give was “My greatest desire is to become a partner at this firm”.
This inability to go with the flow, speak the company line, be a team player, etc has plagued my entire career, unfortunately. I decided that the next interview I was going to ace, so I practiced in front of my family and friends. I was fully prepared when I went to Arthur Young and they asked me “Where do see yourself in ten years? “ I swallowed, slowed my breathing and squeaked out “My greatest desire is to be a partner at Arthur Young”. Fortunately, they did not know me well enough to know I was totally lying. I received an offer from Arthur Young and was thrilled.
Little did I know just what I was getting into.